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Nicole Will Be Like EJ; In My Opinion
Topic Started: February 8, 2010, 10:56 am (410 Views)
Lucy
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I have this strong gut feeling that upon her return, Nicole is going to be an evil troublemaker stirring up problems for glittery Brianna just like her kindred spirit EJ is currently doing with glittery Safe. However, unlike EJ, it wont be all revenge for Nicole, it will be about wanting someone who will love her unconditionally, and she thinks that person is Brady even if she has to go evil to steal him from Arianna.

Don't get me wrong, I think deep down Nicole still loves EJ which like EJ loves Nicole, I am a dirty EJole, and Bricole does absolutely nothing for me in terms of hot romantic chemistry, but with how the material was written when Nicole left Salem for the big house, I fully expect Nicole to give EJ the finger for all the pain and heartache he gave her, and just focus on breaking Brianna up so she can have sweet caring white knight Brady. Afterall, Nicole left Salem with a light bulb going off that she shouldn't have been wasting her time on dark prince EJ when there was hero Brady in her life.


What do you think about my two cents? Agree? Disagree?
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I think just the opposite actually. Nicole seemed to mature exponentially upon her capture and incarceration. There were just so many light bulb moments going on there that I don't see her coming out as EJ at all. There was no long drawn out trial with her trotting out tired excuses and justifications for her actions. She put on her big girl drawers and took her punishment on the chin and knew she deserved it. There was no hypocrisy there at all.

When Nicole gets out for whatever reason, Nicole will not actively be trying to break up Brianna and will instead realize that she mucked up, that Brady seems happy with Ari & deserves happiness and she will do her best not to interfere even though she has feelings for Brady. Brady will of course still be drawn to her and 'in love' but will kind of understand that maybe the time has passed and he and Nicole are not meant to be and also realize that he does indeed have deep feelings for Arianna. Brianna will be destroyed from the inside because of Arianna's insecurity over Nicole and Brady's feelings for her. Enter EJ stage right. I think Nicole will be more involved in the baby switch story at first and resolving outstanding issues with Ejole and confronting EJ. I wouldn't be surprised if she came out and realized her feelings for EJ weren't those of twu wuv in light of the way they wrote Nicole suddenly realizing that it was Brady she should have been with. Still a big WTF! there. I believe it will transition into the new Salem quad of Brady/Nicole/EJ/Arianna.

LOL! about being a dirty Ejole. I have never heard it put that way.
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I dont totally agree with your assessment of Nicole. I think her first priority will be finding Sydney. She carries this enormous guilt that her taking Syd to Cleveland was the catalyst in all this mess. Her priority is remembering the voice.

I think Nicole realizes (as much as she doesnt want to) that Brady wants to build a life with Arianna. She has always pushed this relationship and I dont think she wants to ruin it now. UNTIL, she sees something in the relationship where Arianna wouldnt be good for Brady. Might this be her hanging out with EJ too much?

If this is the case, then Nicole believed all bets are off! She just needs that opening and she'll strike at Brianna.

Now, I do think that part of her will always love EJ because they were a family and she got a taste of how good loving a man can be. However, she fucked it up herself and always looking over her shoulder.

I think hopefully she'll be alone and let Brianna self-destruct with Arianna's constant jealousy of Nicole and Brady's friendship.

As for EJ and Nicole- don't know? EJ has to realize that what Nicole did he would have done in a heartbeat. He knew her in the beginning as a schemer and loved that about her, maybe, after he gets caught and sees the life he created-lonely asshole, then he'll think of the one bright spot he has had- Nicole and Sydney. He's said that he's never been as happy as he was with them...then who knows???
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February 8, 2010, 11:12 am
I think just the opposite actually. Nicole seemed to mature exponentially upon her capture and incarceration. There were just so many light bulb moments going on there that I don't see her coming out as EJ at all. There was no long drawn out trial with her trotting out tired excuses and justifications for her actions. She put on her big girl drawers and took her punishment on the chin and knew she deserved it. There was no hypocrisy there at all.

I agree. I really don't see Nicole scheming to mess up Brady and Arianna; for one thing, she probably won't have to, but most importantly, as you say, she didn't pull a Sami or an EJ and blame everyone else for her problems and refuse to look into the mirror. She looked and she saw who had created this mess--herself--and the reason I think she forced herself to admit it is because Sydney was the one getting hurt.

I just don't think Nicole's priorities will be romantic at all when she gets out of prison, at least for the five minutes Salemites are allowed to go without thinking of romance/sex. I do think that at first she'll be wrapped up in whatever reason it is that has her getting out of prison--whether it's finding Sydney or testifying against Anna or whatever. I imagine at this stage that Brady will be helping her, which will make Arianna upset, but I don't see Nicole taking any pleasure in that or calling Brady over on some pretext and greeting him in a nightie or anything like that.

As for what happens with EJ, who knows? If they're going to set up a quad, we should see it soon enough. In a sense, the dynamic of EJole/Brady/Arianna would be very similar to that of Carrie/Austin/Lumi--Caustin were the "good" couple being kept apart by machinations whereas Lumi were the scheming evildoers who were refusing to admit their attraction to each other. Since Days loves to recycle I could see them doing something similar to this, and after all the hallmark of a quad tends to be that the wrong partners are together--they're doing the same thing with Phelony/Nathan/Stephanie, not that I want Phinie but it's pretty clear Nathan and Melanie are the rooting couple there.
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First, I have to say even though we disagree I LOVE reading everyone's different perspectives and opinions. Its great to have everyone with their own different two cents on what they are thinking will happen.

For me, Nicole was so broken and defeated when she was carted off, it was just so heartbreaking to watch, but I have a feeling that Nicole will come back no more tears. She will fight for whats hers and I think for Nicole, she thinks Brady is good for her.

I have to admit the thought of Syd being baby EJole, and Nicole deciding that she wants Brady to be Syd's daddy has alot of storyline potential because EJ would go insane to the tenth power over the thought of Brady being a happy family with his wife and daughter.
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February 8, 2010, 1:47 pm
I have to admit the thought of Syd being baby EJole, and Nicole deciding that she wants Brady to be Syd's daddy has alot of storyline potential because EJ would go insane to the tenth power over the thought of Brady being a happy family with his wife and daughter.
Yes, it does, but OTOH surely there's a limit to how much the show plans to use Sydney as a pawn. I don't know why I say that because this writing regime clearly believes women absolutely adore storylines about infertility, miscarriages and children sick or in peril:

-Nicole's infertility
-Nicole's miscarriage
-Theo's autism, not that anybody mentions it any more
-Sydney having breathing probems at birth and later
-Grace dying of meningitis
-Ciara being kidnapped by a pedophile
-Sydney being kidnapped
-Chloe's infertility
-Chelsea was also infertile
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I see what you are saying, Pax. My thinking is this, unlike Sami with infant Will in the whole Lucas&Austin mess, Nicole would never use Sydney as a leverage, pawn, weapon etc.

With EJ's laundry list of ass hat stunts starting from the moment he kicked her and Syd to the curb calling Syd a "that" to Syd's double kidnapping, I can see Nicole saying to EJ that she & Syd deserve real unconditional love and she now realizes that EJ is incapable of giving that so EJ would have to show Nicole that he is not all about EJ & his ego.

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February 8, 2010, 2:17 pm
With EJ's laundry list of ass hat stunts starting from the moment he kicked her and Syd to the curb calling Syd a "that" to Syd's double kidnapping, I can see Nicole saying to EJ that she & Syd deserve real unconditional love and she now realizes that EJ is incapable of giving that so EJ would have to show Nicole that he is not all about EJ & his ego.

Oh, I totally see Nicole saying that, whether or not Syd is her daughter--even if it's just her being with Brady. This is why I've been wondering whether the EJole non-divorce yet will end up being a plot point as Bricole angst. If the marriage hasn't ended offscreen already--the only marriage I can think of ending totally offscreen in this regime is Justin and Adrienne, and JE wasn't back on the show yet--then it seems quite possible there may be a problem with the dissolution of the EJole marriage. Neither EJ nor Nicole want to be married to the other at the moment, so if they're not divorced yet I'm very curious to know why.

But getting back to what I was saying, I don't recall EJ ever honestly putting his own needs and ego aside for the sake of his children. If he were the kind of man who did that he wouldn't be using his daughter for revenge.
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February 8, 2010, 2:31 pm
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February 8, 2010, 2:17 pm
With EJ's laundry list of ass hat stunts starting from the moment he kicked her and Syd to the curb calling Syd a "that" to Syd's double kidnapping, I can see Nicole saying to EJ that she & Syd deserve real unconditional love and she now realizes that EJ is incapable of giving that so EJ would have to show Nicole that he is not all about EJ & his ego.

Oh, I totally see Nicole saying that, whether or not Syd is her daughter--even if it's just her being with Brady. This is why I've been wondering whether the EJole non-divorce yet will end up being a plot point as Bricole angst. If the marriage hasn't ended offscreen already--the only marriage I can think of ending totally offscreen in this regime is Justin and Adrienne, and JE wasn't back on the show yet--then it seems quite possible there may be a problem with the dissolution of the EJole marriage. Neither EJ nor Nicole want to be married to the other at the moment, so if they're not divorced yet I'm very curious to know why.

But getting back to what I was saying, I don't recall EJ ever honestly putting his own needs and ego aside for the sake of his children. If he were the kind of man who did that he wouldn't be using his daughter for revenge.
We are on the same page there, Pax. Granted, Nicole is the only woman he did not manipulate to get close to, but that's NOT good enough especially when there is a great guy like Brady who is seriously Salem's version of a Saint who was willingly to throw his ego under the bus time and time again for Nicole & Sydney's sake. Sadly, EJ is all about EJ, and I would hope one day soon he will get a much needed reality check that his love for his ego will always be his own worst enemy.
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I see what you are saying, Pax. My thinking is this, unlike Sami with infant Will in the whole Lucas&Austin mess, Nicole would never use Sydney as a leverage, pawn, weapon etc.
I respectfully disagree. Nicole did to some extent use Sydney as leverage, maybe not a pawn or a weapon but definitely as leverage. Maybe that is just semantics, but I see the three things as totally different. She did threaten to walk out on EJ and take Sydney with her once or twice when EJ appeared to be mooning over St. Sami of the Glitter or he didn't seem to be making with the i luv yous or the marriage proposal fast enough, which admittedly EJ called her on and she back down. Also, she did keep insisting that she and Syd were a package deal after the reveal. I love Nicole but am not blind to her faults and failings.
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But getting back to what I was saying, I don't recall EJ ever honestly putting his own needs and ego aside for the sake of his children. If he were the kind of man who did that he wouldn't be using his daughter for revenge.
On this we can 100% agree. I don't know how many here are still watching but an episode from last week was pretty disgusting to watch. Anna put Syd on the phone with her father to babble away and then Anna then puts the phone to her own ear to ask EJ if he caught that. The camera star wipes to EJ lounging in a chair at the DiMansion totally distracted examing and looking at his fingernails and answering distractedly and dismissively yeah he did. He didn't seem to be paying attention at all.

I am disgusted that his need for revenge outweigh having his daughter being raised by her parent(s). These are her formative years she should be surrounded by people who love her as a daughter should be loved. Anna is nice and all but she is not a substitute for a mother. I cringe every time he or Anna mentions leaving Syd with some hired goon as her babysitter/caregiver. I know this is only a soap but I shudder to think of infant girls being left alone with strange men.
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